Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Were the founding fathers elite?

People are always complaining that we have a government where our elected officials are lawyers or doctors or otherwise elitists, and that our country was not founded by the "power elites". This shows a fundamental deep-seated ignorance of American history, heck, back then the power elites were the only people who were even literate! It wasn't until the advent of nationwide public schools that you had widespread literacy.



So, I give you the elitist signers of the Declaration of Independence



("Statesmen" below means basically "career politician", incumbent, elitist, etc. They're people for whom I couldn't find any career other than being in politics. The 1700s being what they were, those people probably owned land, slaves, etc. Also, anybody listed as a "Plantation Owner" would have had bundles and bundles of slaves.)



President of Congress

1. John Hancock (Massachusetts) - Wealthy shipping magnate

Hancock inherited a very successful shipping company, and further increased it in scope and wealth

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New Hampshire

2. Josiah Bartlett - Doctor

3. William Whipple - Merchant, Judge

4. Matthew Thornton - Doctor

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Massachusetts

5. Samuel Adams - Statesman and Harvard grad

6. John Adams - Lawyer and Harvard grad

7. Robert Treat Paine - Lawyer and Harvard grad

8. Elbridge Gerry - Doctor, merchant, and Harvard grad

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Rhode Island

9. Stephen Hopkins - Merchant and ship owner

10. William Ellery - Merchant, Lawyer, Judge

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Connecticut

11. Roger Sherman - Lawyer and Judge

12. Samuel Huntington - Lawyer

13. William Williams - Merchant and pastor

14. Oliver Wolcott - Career soldier and statesman

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New York

15. William Floyd - Farmer and statesman

16. Philip Livingston - Merchant, statesman, Yale grad

17. Francis Lewis - Mercantile agent

18. Lewis Morris - Real estate owner/developer

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New Jersey

19. Richard Stockton - Lawyer

20. John Witherspoon - Preacher

21. Francis Hopkinson - Customs Collector and Judge

22. John Hart - Statesman

23. Abraham Clark - Lawyer

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Pennsylvania

24. Robert Morris - Merchant and slave trader

25. Benjamin Rush - Doctor

26. Benjamin Franklin - Author, printer, scientist, statesman, all-around polymath. Also quite the ladies man.

27. John Morton - Farmer and Judge

28. George Clymer - Statesman

29. James Smith - Lawyer

30. George Taylor - Ironmaster at a foundry

(Real rags to riches story, George came to the US as an indentured servant. He was one of the very few non-elites who signed the Declaration.)

31. James Wilson - Lawyer

32. George Ross - Lawyer

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Delaware

33. George Read - Lawyer

34. Caesar Rodney - Lawyer

35. Thomas McKean - Lawyer

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Maryland

36. Samuel Chase - Lawyer and Judge

37. William Paca - Lawyer and Judge

38. Thomas Stone - Plantation owner

39. Charles Carroll of Carrollton - Financier and oppressed Catholic

(It's suspected that the 1st Amendment's freedom of religion was in appreciation to all the work that Charles Carroll did for the Revolution, when previously Catholics had been unable to practice law or vote)

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Virginia

40. George Wythe - Lawyer and Judge

41. Richard Henry Lee - Statesman, descendant of the FFV

42. Thomas Jefferson - Highly educated polymath

43. Benjamin Harrison - Plantation owner

44. Thomas Nelson, Jr. - Plantation owner and statesman

45. Francis Lightfoot Lee - Statesman, descendant of the FFV

46. Carter Braxton - Merchant-planter and slave trader

The "First Families of Virginia" or FFV, descendents of the Jamestown settlers, were the old money in Virginia, they were the most powerful and influential families in Virginia's social, financial, and political elite. One of these families was the Lee family, from which famous Civil War General Robert E. Lee was descended.

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North Carolina

47. William Hooper - Lawyer and Hardvard Grad

48. Joseph Hewes - Merchant and Princeton grad

49. John Penn - Lawyer

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South Carolina

50. Edward Rutledge - Lawyer, owned over 50 slaves

51. Thomas Heyward, Jr. - Lawyer, Judge

52. Thomas Lynch, Jr. - Lawyer

53. Arthur Middleton - Lawyer

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Georgia

54. Button Gwinnett - Merchant and plantation owner

55. Lyman Hall - Doctor and Yale grad

56. George Walton - Carpenter, Freemason, statesmanWere the founding fathers elite?
Those are the same people who think the US is a democracy, which it is not. Fifty of the framers of the constitution were Freemasons. If they were egalitarians, you would think they would have created a democracy, not a constitutional republic. There is no mention of democracy anywhere in the constitution, yet we are taught in school that the US is a 'democratic' republic, which is false. Then thet further the lie by just referring to it as a democracy. To make things even worse, we are told to be proud of who we are, even though pride is considered to be one of the seven deadly sins. Of course, the pride in citizenship is just to get the sleeping sheeple to shout down anyone who points this out as un-American, even though these same bufoons claim to be in favor of freedom of expression.
Yes the founders were definitely elites. The problem with today's elites is they got a PHD in lefty.Were the founding fathers elite?
they didnt have computers back then so how could they be elite?
See how many businessmen(merchants), farmers and doctors were founding fathers? These were all men who understood how business worked and valued the individual's freedoms and rights. Today, 90% of our elected officials HAVE NEVER had a job outside of politics or elected office. The elite of 230 years ago were successful because they new how to work and could actually relate to their constituents. Today's political "elite" act like nobility in feudal times, and feel their constituents are too stupid to live without government interference.
Many of these people were indeed elitists, but you paint with a stroke too broad. Franklin, for instance, was truly a self-made success. He became rich, but not by elitist methods, and he eschewed privilege for the most part (OK, he had some weaknesses in this regard, but he recognized them as such).

Hamilton similarly came from a humble background. In his case, he wanted to be part of the elite, and succeeded to some measure, but never became particularly rich.

Jefferson and Washington were squarely in the elite category.

All in all, it was not so much a matter of elite or not, but belief in common principals that brought these people together to found a great nation.

Elitism in the sense of privilege is, in my opinion, something we should always guard against. Elitism in the sense of success in obtaining wealth or education is not, in my view, a useful meaning of the word, as it obscures the former meaning. We are a country of opportunity after all.
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