My father in law was talking about this the other day. When he was younger, back in the 40s, blacks were productive members of society, working hard, etc. He told me that blacks after the Civil War were VERY hard workers, honest and upright people.
He said that in the 50s and early 60s, blacks were working in the packing plants where he also worked - in fact he was one of only two whites who worked there. They all made around $16.00 an hour. That was a helluva lot of money in those days, whether a man was black OR white. The blacks there were all very hard workers, good family men, raised their kids with honor and stability, etc.
Then, he said, in the 60s along came the NAACP and the Democratic Party into the Omaha area in a big way. Now, at the time he himself was a Democrat, which was opposite most of the blacks he worked with, who were Republicans. So along came the NAACP, and the blacks in the plants started going to these meetings. So my father in law asked if he could go along once too, and a couple of his friends, a black man named Charlie White and another guy, told him "ok, but don't speak unless spoken too, and just stick by us and you'll be ok."
So, off they go to the NAACP meeting. My father in law said he couldn't believe what he was hearing. There were these black "leaders" up there, preaching that the black man should go out and have sexual relations with as many black women as possible to make as many babies as possible, and get on welfare and food stamps, etc. and that it was by means of finally outnumbering the whites that the blacks would be able to take over this country. These men who were preaching this said that this is the NEW preaching that is being taken up by such men as Jesse Jackson (and another one, I forget the name he said, but you'd know it, it was another famous one like that). AND, they were being taught to join the Democratic Party and that it is through the DEMOCRATS that they would get all these freebies and never have to work again, and that the white man owed a free living to the black man anyway, so everyone go and take advantage of this.
My father in law said that from then on, and it didn't even take very long! Less than one generation! that from then on, the blacks in the packing houses and elsewhere who had once thought working hard and making 16.00 an hour back then was a great living, now thought it wasn't good enough, that they should be able to get that kind of money WITHOUT working at all, and so they began to quit by the thousands, and this is when the Mexicans came in and basically took over working in the packing houses. I know this actually, because I lived near the packing houses in the 1970s and 1980s in Omaha Nebraska (where this was all taking place, among other areas across the country), and by then it was all Mexican in the packing houses.
My father in law said he watched a proud, strong people become lazy, stupid, and violent in less than a generation, and he said it used to just drive him crazy. He couldn't understand why they had done this to themselves, why they had listened to these idiot leaders in the NAACP, why they had become Democrats. HE was already a Democrat, but when he saw what the Democrats were doing to the blacks, he realised that the ONLY reason for it was for the Democratic leaders to get into political office and stay there by the power of black voters whom they actually cared nothing at all about. My father in law became a Republican at that point and went to work on the political election campaigns of the local Republicans in Omaha then.
This really opened my eyes as to how blacks got into the situation they are in today in so many black communities. I asked him, well can they not see how horrible this way of life IS for them now, why don't they change it themselves now?? He just shrugged and said "Its all they know, now. It's horrible. I can't even think about it because it drives me crazy."
So this was a very eye-opening conversation for me, from someone who was there at the time and watched it all happen.
EDIT: You may give me a thumbs down for this, but it would be better if you'd look at the history of how blacks got into the situation they're in now, and get up off your butts and take back your power to become educated members of society, contributing members as your grandfathers and great grandfathers were, and intended you to be as well.
You are both full of crap.
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Yahoo thought police removed my question. Reposted here. What do you think?I think what your question really highlights is the changing attitudes to racial discrimination in America.
I don't agree with your comment "Blacks have just become complicit in their subjugation," and do have a suspicion about the neutrality of your question. Not knowing these people personally or by reputation, it is difficult for me to judge, but saying things like "violent ignorant blacks" is, as far as I can tell, racially discriminating language and sufficient excuse for the Yahoo Answers monitors to remove your question (which you say they did once).
Just because different people have different ways of opposing racial discrimination, doesn't mean that one person is better than another. Whether it is the way of Rice or Snoop Dog or Ray Charles is less important than the fact they are public figures who oppose racial discrimination. Ray Charles is an excellent example of a person who opposed racial discrimination. I don't think he ever expected anything to change because of his stand to racially discriminating laws, but it did. It changed the heart of each person who attended one of his mixed seating concerts.
Fighting racial discrimination doesn't come about just by changing the law, it comes about by changing the heart of those who hold wrong attitudes. It doesn't come in one big hit, it comes about by ten thousand little hits.
I think the way of Condeleza Rice is probably far more important for the long term than Snoop Dog because she is able to move in the circles of power and is able to influence the thinking behind legislation, which Snoop Dog isn't able to do, but that is less important than the fact they both oppose it.
I'm not entirely sure what your stand is on racial discrimination, but I have no doubt it should be to oppose it. I believe you are an American, and if that is correct then you should be opposed to racial discrimination, not because you have to, that would contravene your right to freedom of thought. No, it is because you as of right have something else which is very rare in this world: the right to expect everyone to treat you as an equal. Since you have that right, you should also, as of right, reciprocate that right and treat all people, regardless of their ancestry, the same.
uh... what was the question?
I think, if you had time to watch enough BET and do enough research to post that, twice, I might want your job.
What do you do for a living?
I am 100% black and I totally agree with what you are getting at.
Some people will get mad at you though and say that you are racist.. bklah! blah! blah!...
but I am sorry! The ignorance amongst some of the democratic blacks in the US is mind boggling! Whenever I go to the US, I come back traumatized
Now watch the amount of thumb downs that I get for this
What do I think? I think your question is going to be removed again. (not criticising- just observing)
I don't agree with the powell, Rice, Brady comment and I feel you do have a point with your statement. Something else you need to realize is that all Black Democrats consoder it a plantation as you put it. Democrats happen to have some very valid points in politics.You do not speak for all Blacks... not qualified. There are just as many educated Blacks as there are Whites. Don't pull the ' political party' card to get people to agree with you. My affiliation has little to do with my intelligence. Just because I vote the way I choose does not make me any less Black.
Furthermore... I don't think you would know what a 'True Black person' was if they disputed these issues to your face.
Kanye West and Snoop Dog are entertaining rappers... not the voice for all Black Americans. They have the same heritage, culture, creed and background that all Blacks share. Their beliefs and ideas are rather twisted but this doesn't make them any less Black. We are proud of who we are. Don't minimize our lives to make yours appear somehow bigger and better than. It isn't.
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